> It seems that vaccine designers tried to make an anthrax vaccine with > squalene to get an immune response without having to use actual > killed/attenuated anthrax baccili
Freaky! So the vaccine didn't use any part of anthrax, at all?
> and the author's argument is that this vaccine is what caused much > of "Gulf War syndrome".
Definitely let me know what you find out when you finish it. A lot of the alt.medical types think that GWS is related to accidental chemical weapons exposure, but I don't know if anybody's ever really proven anything.
Supposedly Saddam intentionally repainted a lot of his chemical stocks to look like conventional shells, and mixed them in with normal stuff, in outlying ammo dumps he knew we'd capture. Further supposedly, US Military SOP at the time was to detonate such places, thus exposing soldiers to low levels of the chemicals. On the one hand, it is pretty well known that the US warned Saddam, before Gulf I, "If you go chemical, we go nuclear", and many claim that's why he didn't use chemicals in Gulf I. Supposedly the "hide it in the ammo dumps" plan was Saddam's way of getting us to gas ourselves for him.
I really don't know how true this all is, it's just something that I have read from seemingly non-looney sources. One of my big questions is, what are the long term effects from sublethal CW exposure? Conventional wisdom says if you don't die or get seriously sick early on, you'll recover 100%. This seems to be true with natural neurotoxins, e.g. potato and tomato. On the other hand I don't know if this has been studied well, with the actual stuff used in warfare. So this sort of argues against GWS being related to CW exposure, and leaves more room for squalene to be a culprit.
I suppose now I will have to see what I can find about the toxicity of injected squalene.
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> It seems that vaccine designers tried to make an anthrax vaccine with
> squalene to get an immune response without having to use actual
> killed/attenuated anthrax baccili
Freaky! So the vaccine didn't use any part of anthrax, at all?
> and the author's argument is that this vaccine is what caused much
> of "Gulf War syndrome".
Definitely let me know what you find out when you finish it. A lot of the alt.medical types think that GWS is related to accidental chemical weapons exposure, but I don't know if anybody's ever really proven anything.
Supposedly Saddam intentionally repainted a lot of his chemical stocks to look like conventional shells, and mixed them in with normal stuff, in outlying ammo dumps he knew we'd capture. Further supposedly, US Military SOP at the time was to detonate such places, thus exposing soldiers to low levels of the chemicals. On the one hand, it is pretty well known that the US warned Saddam, before Gulf I, "If you go chemical, we go nuclear", and many claim that's why he didn't use chemicals in Gulf I. Supposedly the "hide it in the ammo dumps" plan was Saddam's way of getting us to gas ourselves for him.
I really don't know how true this all is, it's just something that I have read from seemingly non-looney sources. One of my big questions is, what are the long term effects from sublethal CW exposure? Conventional wisdom says if you don't die or get seriously sick early on, you'll recover 100%. This seems to be true with natural neurotoxins, e.g. potato and tomato. On the other hand I don't know if this has been studied well, with the actual stuff used in warfare. So this sort of argues against GWS being related to CW exposure, and leaves more room for squalene to be a culprit.
I suppose now I will have to see what I can find about the toxicity of injected squalene.